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I know nothing about this period of Quebec genealogy, so I'm afraid I can't really help, but I want to draw attention to us having three copies of this man's wife, and they all have different parents:

  1. Marie Langlois
  2. Marie Miville (Langlois), of Quebec
  3. Marie Langlois

Perhaps someone with skill in this area can help go through the sources and cite the correct relationships.

I'm tagging all the proposed parents to alert the managers, in case any want to help:

  1. Marie 1 is daughter of Pierre Langlois and Jeanne Langlois
  2. Marie 2 is daughter of Noël ("Langlois", "Lachapelle", Chapelle", "Noel I", Dit Traversy") Langlois dit Boisverdun, Sr. and Francoise Grenier
  3. Marie 3 is daughter of Pierre Langlois and Jeanne Langlois

Again, I have no idea if any of those relationships are correct; they're just what we're showing.

re:" Both girls were named Marie, if they had another given name, it did not show up in the Canadian records."

for Marie Langlois

Just noting this has roots in Catholicism. It is in honor of the Virgin Mary. "Marie" is linked to Mary, and many were "Marie" if a girl, or "Joseph" if a boy, and then it was followed with two given names, which people would be known by, even though legally you would be Marie so and so or Joseph so and so and documents would reflect. So, as an example I would have been named Marie Karrie Amelia, and my sisters would have been Marie Sister One, Marie Sister Two, etc. I hope this makes sense. I'm not an "expert" by any means, but do have recent ancestry from Quebec so encounter this frequently.

Sorry--hit reply too soon. These are very likely all the same people even though the names appear to be different, but we need sources to be sure, of course. It is very easy to quickly make a mess due to the "Maries" AND the "dit" names, which are another pile of fun! :-)

https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-a-dit-name-3972358#:~:text=A%20di....

I researched on the LDS FamilySearch site and records. Two of these were the same. There was a THIRD Marie Langlois, NOT the same person, who was born in France but did immigrate to Quebec, likely causing the confusion. I am a descendent of both of the Marie(s) and have done my best to clean up the accidental merges.

PS Confirmed all descendants are attributed to the correct parents.

R/E the “Marie” issue, as a grandson of Quebec lineage, Marie does seem to be applied frequently as a “first” name, typically with a second name, such as Marie-Catherine, Marie-Anne, etc. what made this instance challenging was the fist name was Marie ONLY. No secondary name.

Salut! I will see if I can find additional records for the other sister. It would be highly unusual if her full name was simply "Marie."

On a most random note, I encountered Mary again while working on Irish the other day. One way to respond to Dia duit *Hello" or more accurately "God be with you", is to respond with "Dia is Muire duit", or "God and Mary be with you." I thought it was interesting how the response to the initial greeting involved Mary as this thread with the Mary/Marie influence was freshly in my mind.

(I'm not Christian, just find other languages/cultures fascinating so sharing with this in mind...i.e. not pushing anything on anyone.)

Karrie Amelia Anderson Welborn
You're right, they were given three first names. Mary being the Christian name and not the legal name, the next name was the name of their godparents, then the name by which they were known! When a child was stillborn, they were sometimes given only the Christian name! Unlike English tradition, where first names are listed as a first name, then a middle name! Therefore, a Neophyte genealogist would confuse the Christian name with the first name.

Thank you Michel Paul Joseph/

I think it might be helpful if we had some basic instructions for this--perhaps they exist, or perhaps we can hope curious people will find this discussion and learn something new. :-)

I know it can be challenging, but fun, for me working across so many different languages while researching. There is always something to learn!

A very belated thanks to you, Todd William Aragon, for your hard work on this! It's greatly appreciated.

I will make curator notes on the profiles now to make sure we don't get any confusion again.

Thanks Ashley, it was quite a puzzle to untangle, but also part of the fun!

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